I would like to dedicate this episode to the people that use other robotics frameworks different from ROS… and succeed. You know, ROS already provides you with a fully working robotics framework as well as many software for main robotics tasks. If you go outside ROS, the robotics world is cold, difficult, and hostile. If a company is able to succeed in such conditions, then that indicates strength and mastery. Good for you! If your company is in such a situation, then this episode is dedicated to you.   Today we are going to learn about such an amazing company that has succeeded worldwide without using ROS. We will learn how they did it, why they don’t use ROS and what do they use instead. We will also learn about their process to get robotics engineers in their team, so this episode can be very interesting for you if you are looking for a job!   But before going into the meat, let me tell you that in case you still believe ROS is a good path for you, you can learn ROS2 with The Construct. We provide self-led training based on robot simulations and remote real robots. You follow our lessons using your web browser and practice from minute one with the simulated robots. Also, as you advance the lesson, you will practice with real robots located in Barcelona. They are available 24/7 for you to remotely connect to them and do your practice.   Have a look at our webpage about the different subjects you can learn on ROS1 and ROS2 and start practicing with robots from minute one with The Construct.   Now let’s go to the meat of the episode. Let me introduce you Denys Kanunikov and Sam Thornton.  Denys and Sam work at Mujin, a robotics company that…. well you are going to learn in a minute. For the moment, let me tell you that Denys is the lead robotics system engineer of Mujin and Sam is the Manager of Talent acquisition.   Welcome to the podcast Denys and Sam!     Related links Follow Denys Kanunikov on LinkedIn * Follow Sam Thornton on LinkedIn Mujin Mujin Controller Mujin QuickBot Depalletizer Mujin’s Careers page  MUJINspire (company blog) Interview article with Denys The ROSCon 2022 The Construct ROS1 & ROS2 academy The full 3 days training The Construct delivers about ROS2 including basics of ROS2, ROS2 Navigation and ROS2 Manipulation