Journalist Jon Ronson has made a career out of challenging orthodoxies and examining the fringes of society, from people who've been publicly shamed, to the American military’s exploration of paranormal tools, and the porn industry. In the newest season of his BBC podcast Things Fell Apart, he tackles the culture wars and how they exploded during the COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns. Ronson joins David Common to talk about his journalistic approach, and why he thinks curiosity should trump ideology in storytelling.