Dr. Nathan Jacobs is an academic, artist, and filmmaker. In this conversation, we discuss where reason, rationality, and discernment fit into the mystical experience and how the modern world has mistakenly divorced reason and mysticism. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/BlB1EkTaxpg Check out the Nathan Jacobs Podcast:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheNathanJacobsPodcast  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hSskUtCwDT40uFbqTk3QS Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nathan-jacobs-podcast/id1747994475 Nathan's website: https://www.nathanajacobs.com/ Join me and Richard Rohlin for our new Universal History course on Dante’s Divine Comedy: Purgatorio. Patrons at the Involved tier or higher qualify for 10% discount. Apply your unique discount code at checkout. Class starts August 27th. Register today: https://thesymbolicworld.com/courses/dantes-purgatorio  🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe  Timestamps: 00:00 - Coming up 01:46 - Intro music 02:10 - Introduction 03:09 - What's happening? 13:12 - Intuitions and tangibility 17:30 - The synopsis 21:25 - A cognitive minority 24:58 - Joe Rogan and the pre-rational 27:30 - Transpersonal agency 31:02 - Everybody believes in ghosts 39:56 - The question of realism 45:52 - The Mind 50:42 - Overcoming skepticism 56:07 - The Son of Man 01:00:24 - Naming 01:03:57 - The focal point of man 01:17:49 - The Nathan Jacobs Podcast Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/  My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.