To celebrate the book release of This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers, KJ is joined by her husband Ryan + their friend (spiritual director + Anglican priest), Summer Gross. Listen as KJ + Ryan reflect on 10 years of marriage + the joy that has come in embracing their suffering as shared + each other as unique. They discuss attachment styles, co-regulation, + the Enneagram. Get a copy of KJ’s book! kjramsey.com/book

Chris is the author of the new book The Enneagram of Belonging and The Sacred Enneagram. Chris & KJ discuss the great challenge & invitation to allow our fears & desires to lead to our liberation & most lasting belonging. As Chris confessed, "When I don’t let any part of myself belong, the truth is that no part of myself can belong.” Chris invites us to move from the suffering of silencing parts of ourselves to fluency in the language of our whole selves—head, heart, and body.

Jay and Katherine Wolf are the authors of Suffer Strong and Hope Heals. KJ and the Wolfs discuss how neuroscience shows faith and hope are a shared reality and how telling our stories of suffering allows us to renarrate them as stories of grace.  Learn more about the Wolfs: https://www.hopeheals.com/ Learn more about KJ:  kjramsey.com

In a time of crisis and stress, we struggle to cope. KJ and Krispin Mayfield (therapist and writer) discuss how addiction is an attempt to cope with the pain of disconnection in our lives.  We discuss porn addiction, having a story of abuse, and becoming people who can non-anxiously encounter one another's shame with kindness. Though we recorded this a couple months ago, this episode will help you hold hope for healing from the harm you've experienced or extended. 

Michele is an author + speaker who recently released, Relentless: The Unshakeable Presence of a God Who Never Leaves. Michele + KJ discuss how suffering + trauma can be an invitation to earned secure attachment with God and one another. Though this episode was recorded before coronavirus hit hard, it remains a timely encouragement to allow our limitations + weaknesses to slow us down to the pace of grace.

Clint D. Watkins is a campus missionary, grieving father, husband, and all around courageously honest man. KJ and Clint discuss child loss, why men struggle to show their grief, and the necessity of lament. Whether you’ve struggled with infertility and child loss or not, this conversation will help you make your own grief and pain sayable. Follow Clint’s writing on Instagram at @clintdwatkins.

Lore Ferguson Wilbert is a writer & the author of Handle with Care: How Jesus Redeems the Power of Touch in Life and Ministry. Lore and KJ share the gritty details of their unconventional friendship formed through shared storylines of suffering and the way they’re both learning how to trust through the deep listening of friendship. Friendship requires courage, to allow God to reform our trust & sense of safety through risking love with real people...

Meredith McDaniel is a licensed professional counselor and the author of In Want + Plenty: Waking Up to God’s Provision in a Land of Longing. Meredith & KJ reflect on how wholeness & hope are formed when we hold space for one another. They share about their friendship, the purpose of therapy, and what it looks like to experience our mundane & maddening moments as places of holiness, purpose, & grace.

Rich Villodas is the pastor of New Life Church in Queens, New York and author of the forthcoming book, The Deeply Formed Life: Five Transformative Values for a World Living on the Surface (Sept. 2020, Waterbrook). Rich and KJ discuss how our bodies tell us truths about God and ourselves, & the healing that is possible when we turn toward our bodies with attention and gentleness. They also explore the pain of church hurt & moving toward healing and community after experiencing harm.

Emily P. Freeman, author and host of The Next Right Thing, reflects on processing the grief of everyday life and the gentle invitation to engage the present rather than being defeated by it. Emily asks, "If God is pleased to dwell within me, who am I to be displeased with dwelling within me?” Listen as Emily and KJ share about how turning toward our bodies and emotions with trust wakes us up to the reality of the unshakable kingdom of God. 

This Too Shall Last features author and therapist K.J. Ramsey (MA, LPCC, NCC) and interview guests as they have frank, honest conversations about the hard things in our lives. Stories that include suffering are worth telling and worth living, and this podcast will help spark curiosity and courage to live like that’s true. KJ’s book, This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers releases May 12, 2020 with Zondervan. Preorder at kjramsey.com/book