In an episode last year with the chief scientist at Georgia Tech’s Center for 21st Century Universities Ashok Goel, we asked: Is AI in higher education worth the hype? It turns out that, yes, it is. Ashok is back to help us understand what the developments of ChatGPT and other generative AI systems mean for teaching and learning and how they fit with the machine learning frameworks that were already in place. He also makes some predictions of how things will develop, including the arrival within five years of a university in which every operation is powered by AI. Hear the previous conversation with had with Ashok on Spotify, Apple podcasts or Google podcasts.