Welcome to we are beer people, a podcast all about the many different people who help us enjoy beer. *This is part TWO of a two-part episode. In the first part we focus mainly on Fuller's and the earlier part of Hayley's career whilst the second part picks up when Hayley joins Siren Craft Brew. If you haven't listened to it already, you might want to listen to the first part of this before this one.*   So today, I'm heading to Staines and to one of the local pubs of Hayley Pearce, shift brewer at Siren Craft Brew. Hayley's brewing career started with homebrewing with her Dad, before joining Fuller's as part of their graduate scheme and going through a number of different stations, training to run the big kit, helping commission and run the pilot kit at the brewery before joining Siren Craft Brew.   We talk about the differences of what it's like working for a family brewer - "standing on the shoulder of the giants" of previous generations that have brewing at that since 1845 - versus at relatively small (although probably medium-sized) craft brewery founded 11 years ago that has a range spanning everything from West Coast to barley wines, braggots and everything in between.  Along the way Hayley has - in her words - had to figure out her way of doing things in breweries that have often been built around men; with processes, tools and designs that haven't changed much in generations. Hayley's been a proponent for opening doors and removing obstacles to help open brewing up to more people that might otherwise be put off. We talk about keeping fermenters warm with ski jackets, the ballet performance of getting large malt sacks into the mill with a wheelbarrow and the different languages of brewing that are spoken at different breweries by different people.     So join us as we have a chat with one of the beer people. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.