In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Darren Robinson (@darrenrobinson), guitarist in the band  Phantom Planet. They discuss Darren's journey in the music industry, getting a record deal, working with friends over many decades, his love of cryptocurrency, and navigating investing. Tune in to hear about the challenges and rewards of pursuing art and the intersection of creativity and finance. This episode also features The Economic Outlook with financial astrologer Susan Gidel. Susan, our resident economic cosmonaut, does what many humans have done before us for thousands of years: she looks to the stars to understand our economic present and predict our financial futures. For more guidance from Susan, sign up for her Red Letter Trading Days newsletter. A special thanks to the talented and generous Ramsey Yount for producing, editing, and sound designing this episode.  Thank you to Jess Rona and Ramsey Yount for lending your voice for our special PSA.  The theme music was written and performed by Andrew Parker, Jenna Parker, and Paco de Leon. Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.