We've got a special treat for you! Usually reserved exclusively for our Patreon supporters, we're sharing a "Beyond The If" segment with everyone this time. We had a blast reflecting on our recent episode with C. Renee James. Our chat wandered from discussing the fascinating world of drumming, the intriguing connections between science and music, to sharing personal stories about our own musical journeys. It's these light-hearted, behind-the-scenes conversations that remind us how much fun science can be.