"Nothing good comes from giving up" Known best for her vivacious character Effie, Mary Coustas has had a long and hugely influential career on-stage, on our screens, and as a writer – and she's still got big plans ahead! Mary chats with Wil about getting a PhD in herself, the moment she knew that Effie was going to be something big, and the only place in society we can still act like animals. Mary's website: https://maryandeffie.com/ See TOFOP live in Melbourne on April 7: https://www.trybooking.com/CPJHP  See Wil live: https://comedy.com.au/artist/wil-anderson/  Everyone Relax merch, Patreon, and more: https://linktr.ee/TOFOP  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.