Episodes
Tom and John each choose an album they feel deserves wider recognition, and run down why these treasures should be unburied and more widely celebrated. Any album at all — as long as it has ties in topically to the era we love. Though chosen completely at random, you won’t believe the crossovers between Tom’s treasure and John’s jewel!  Listen and Subscribe: ⁠Find the podcast platform of your choice here⁠. References and Related: ⁠⁠Playlist of songs featured on Out of the Main⁠⁠ ...
Published 05/02/24
Published 04/25/24
The Docksiders’ Kevin and Erin Sucher, fresh off the release of their new album “The Timeless Journey,” rejoin the podcast to discuss the many amazing stories behind the release of their new record. You won’t believe some of the stories that went into the making of this record, and you won’t believe how good it sounds when it all comes together! Let’s catch up with the Docksiders, still making their scene on the Vegas strip! Listen and Subscribe: ⁠Find the podcast platform of your choice...
Published 04/25/24
Listener Jonathan returns to the podcast (as all Supporters are welcome to do) to take an in-depth review of perhaps the most influential jazz album of all time: Miles Davis’s 1959 masterpiece “Kind of Blue.” What’s the story? What makes this recording so groundbreaking and so influential?  What is modal music? What does the track-by-track analysis reveal? What are the connections to yacht rock?  Why were so many yacht rockers so enamored with the jazz convention? How does all of...
Published 04/18/24
Tom and John, still residing in the Minneapolis area, take an expedition through the Prince album archives, from 1979’s “Prince” to 1989’s “Batman.” Follow along and score along, as they allot points to each album (out of a total of 100) to determine which of the 10 albums in this remarkable run gets the highest score in aggregate...and which gets the lowest.  Has there ever been a more impressive 10-album run?  Is there a more accomplished artist in the history of modern music than...
Published 04/11/24
Unmoored from the harbors of Marina del Rey, the yacht gets trailered to The Land of a Thousand Lakes this week, where John and Tom go exploring for the history, sonic markers and artists that made up “The Minneapolis Sound” of the late 70s and 1980s. What made this sound great? Let’s dive in! Want to do a freshwater deep dive yourself? We’ve got you covered: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/20pYqecUQxYaj7caDGbwSu?si=8Ih9bQnyR-iFivVsFx5kdA&pi=u-Yg-SzeiNSe-4 Listen and...
Published 04/04/24
Here we go! Rick Such and Eddy Cabello from Inside MusiCast are here to help us settle this thing once and for all! Who will match up as the perfect pair in the finals of the Toto Invitational Tournament Spectacular? Tune in...follow along...one song will soon have its “One Shining Moment!” Listen and Subscribe: ⁠Find the podcast platform of your choice here⁠. References and Related: ⁠⁠Playlist of songs featured on Out of the Main⁠⁠ ⁠John’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist⁠⁠ ...
Published 03/28/24
Kicking off Round 1 of the Toto Invitational Tournament Spectacular this week, with guest bracket busters Listeners Jorn and Mikael! They certainly proved their Toto bona fides...but did they get the picks right? You make the call! Tune in...follow along...fill out your own brackets. It’ll be madness, y’all! Listen and Subscribe: ⁠Find the podcast platform of your choice here⁠. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Final Thoughts References and Related: ⁠⁠Playlist...
Published 03/21/24
It's March! You know what that means around these parts. Time for a tournament of madness! This year, it's not the NIT (Nyacht Invitational Tournament) but the Toto Invitational Tournament Spectacular! John and Tom set the table this week...deciding the play-in games and talking through some tough breaks on Selection Sunday. Next week, we kick off a two-part Toto tourney. Follow along to see which Toto classic emerges as the most representative of the genius that was and is Toto. Listen...
Published 03/14/24
Tom is going in blind this week, as John pops him with a surprise topic. Totally unprepared and unrehearsed, the crew goes exploring through the heyday of music production through a totally new lens. What’s the surprise? Tune in to find out for yourself. Listen and Subscribe: Find the podcast platform of your choice here. Lightning Round: Found at Sea: Our Bob Clearmountain Spotify Playlist Buried Treasures Final Thoughts References and Related: ⁠Playlist of songs featured on...
Published 03/07/24
How well do you know the name, talents and discography of Bob Clearmountain? You certainly know the music he’s mixed. Perhaps the first “official mix master,” Clearmountain has his fingerprints on some of the best-sounding music in pop/rock history.  This week John and Tom dive into his career to uncover and examine what makes Clearmountain one of the most sought-after mixers in music...even to this day! Come along as we continue on our journey in the pursuit of music perfection. Listen...
Published 02/29/24
Neil Stubenhaus returns to the podcast for part two of our conversation with the iconic session bassist, from his approach to his discography, from his philosophy to his memories of sitting in on some of the most iconic sessions from the 70, 80s and all the way through to modern day. Come back to see if Neil storms off the set, as John feared at the end of Part 1! Listen and Subscribe: Find the podcast platform of your choice here. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures ...
Published 02/22/24
The talented, cerebral and prolific session bass guitarist Neil Stubenhaus joins the podcast this week to talk through his approach, his discography, his philosophy and his memories of sitting in on some of the most iconic sessions from the 70, 80s and all the way through to modern day. Tally another bass player, for those keeping score at home! Listen and Subscribe: Find the podcast platform of your choice here. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Final...
Published 02/15/24
We’re back! Season 5 of Out of the Main picks up where we left off at the end of Season 4: with John’s cliffhanger! Did music production and artistry peak during the yacht rock years — beyond the confines of yacht rock itself? If so, why? Where else did we see the same attention to detail and emphasis on sophistication? When did it end, and why? Where are we headed going forward? All of these questions and more are answered in the first episode of Season 5! Dive in!  Listen and...
Published 02/08/24
Our final intermission episode before next week's launch of Season 5 brings one of our all-time favorite guests: Tris Imboden. This first part of our two-part interview was the beginning of a wonderful relationship between Tom and John and one of music's true gems. Part 2 is here. Original show notes: Legendary session and touring drummer Tris Imboden climbs aboard the yacht rock podcast, “Out of the Main,” to discuss the yacht rock years, what’s happened since, and—yes!—what’s happening...
Published 02/01/24
Digging through the archives as we get ready to launch Season 5 in a couple weeks and found this buried treasure — our first interview with Dane Donohue! The yacht rock legend joined the podcast to discuss life after rock and roll, his big break, the making of a masterpiece with hall of famers, and much, much more. Keith Barry, journalist with ⁠Narratively.com⁠, told the story we all needed to hear: whatever happened? Part one of a two-part interview with “the lost prince of yacht...
Published 01/24/24
Our tour of the archives continue, while we prepare for Season 5. Here is Part 1 of our chat with Tamara and Bill Champlin when we caught up to them backstage before a concert in Dayton Ohio in 2022. Part 2 is here. Listen in to clips from their conversation: everything from singing technique to songwriting to performing live and working in the studio. We covered a lot and learned a lot, and you will two. It’s not just The Champ...it’s The Co-Champs! Keep tabs on Bill and Tamara and check...
Published 01/18/24
During the inter-season hiatus, we will continue to post interviews from the archives. Here is one of our all-time favorite guests: Jay Graydon! We pick the conversation up with Part 2 of our three-part interview. Part 1 is here. Part 3 is here. Highlights from Part 2: The Rhodes’ comeback in modern music ⁠Watch Stefan Olofsson do his Al Jarreau and Steely Dan medleys on the Rhodes⁠ (scroll down once you click that link) The Jay Graydon “sonicscape” that transcended artists and...
Published 01/11/24
For those new to the podcast, we are republishing previously released episodes until we kick off Season 5 in a few weeks. This week is Part 1 of our two-episode interview with Kenny Loggins, covering most of what was revealed in his memoir, "Still Alright," published in 2022. If you'd like to continue along with the conversation, part 2 can be found here (wherever you get your podcasts). References and Related: John’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Tom’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist ...
Published 01/04/24
Our favorite convention from the late 70s and early 80s: Everything had a Christmas Special! And every year, they would rerun the same holiday special specials and we never got tired of them. It was tradition! Our yacht rock podcast should be no different! John and Tom scour music-dom for the yachtiest yuletide merriment to bring your season glad “tide”-ings, including songs from the era and modern buried treasures from classic yacht rock artists.Who’s on your yachty list? Tell us tunes,...
Published 12/22/23
Tom and John close out the fourth season of Out of the Main by clearing the decks of various odds and ends they’ve saved up over the course of the year but never got to. PLUS, some discussion of new music to come, as well as a look ahead to Season 5. NOTE: Here's that funk playlist John made. Thank you all for listening, and especially to those for supporting the podcast. We literally couldn’t do it without you!  See you all in 2024 for Season 5! Listen and Subscribe: Find the...
Published 12/21/23
E23.46: Monkey House’s Don Breithaupt Tom knew him as one of the members of Monkey House. You might know him as the Emmy-award-winning composer and musician who has worked with the likes of Chicago, Marc Jordan, Jay Graydon and Manhattan Transfer. Others know him as the author of the “Aja” book, having interviewed Donald Fagan himself. And if you still don’t know him, tune in to get to know Don Breithaupt, a buried treasure hidden in plain sight and well worth learning all...
Published 12/14/23
The Grammy-Award-winning first-call brass maestro Jerry Hey rejoins the podcast for part two of our  interview. Learn the back story, hear his process, and tune in for some intriguing and informative anecdotes. Beginning even before yacht rock all the way up to recent gigs, you won’t want to miss a beat! If you want to hear our original tribute episode to Jerry Hey “Beast Mode,” that can be found here. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References and...
Published 12/07/23
The man behind countless memorable horn arrangements and countermelodies, Jerry Hey, joins the podcast for a two-part interview. Learn the back story, hear his process, and tune in for some intriguing and informative anecdotes. Beginning even before yacht rock all the way up to recent gigs, you won’t want to miss a beat! If you want to hear our original tribute episode to Jerry Hey “Beast Mode,” that can be found here. Listen and Subscribe: Find the podcast platform of your choice...
Published 11/30/23
John Zaika, the filmmaker behind the forthcoming Bobby Kimball documentary “Kite on a String,” returns to the podcast to answer the most-asked question on our YouTube channel: “When is the Bobby Kimball story coming out?!” John provides updates, shares new stories, and reveals things we never knew about the living legend who once fronted Toto. Lightning Round: Found at Sea Buried Treasures Off the Map References and Related: John’s Spotify Yacht Rock Playlist Tom’s Spotify...
Published 11/21/23