Mako and Kim discuss his expansive knowledge about abortion, including his book Abortion Policy and Christian Social Ethics in the United States. Mako shares about his Asian-American culture and his love for Jesus. Mako gives a refreshing and thought-provoking description of restorative versus retributive justice. Mako is the Director of the Anastasis Center and schools Kim about its meaning. Mako Nagasawa (BA/BS Stanford University; MTS Holy Cross Greek Orthodox Seminary) is the Director of The Anástasis Center for Christian Education and Ministry. He and his team write curriculum, and teach, on how early Christian restorative justice and healing atonement are relevant for today’s racial and political issues, for emotional development, and ministry today. Mako has contributed to NIV God’s Justice Bible (2016) and Honor, Shame, and the Gospel (2020). He has lived in Christian intentional communities since 1995 and lives with his wife Ming in Dorchester, MA. Connect with Mako on his website AnastasisCenter.org