It's ten years since Carl Williams was killed in prison. Andrew is joined by crime writer and former journalist Liam Houlihan to talk about the winding road that brought the gangland kingpin to his doom. Want to read Andrew Rule's latest columns? Subscribe to the Herald Sun. Go to https://www.heraldsun.com.au/andrewrule and click on any article to begin.   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.