In this episode, Lindy Hughson, Managing Editor & Publisher of PKN Packaging News, talks with Chris Foley, CEO of the Australian Packaging Covenant Organisation (APCO), about the Review of the 2025 National Packaging Targets. In the face of the disappointing reality delivered by the headline data that the targets are not on track to be met by December 2025, Foley calls for a stronger co-regulatory model which strikes a balance between industry-led action and effective government regulation. Foley dissects some of the data in depth. The biggest challenge lies with the target of recycling or composting 70 per cent of plastic packaging. The discussion gives us a comprehensive evaluation of current packaging solutions for flexible and rigid plastic packaging and whether we can meet our capacity to recycle them. We discuss the APCO Review’s key findings and suggestions, with a focus on what can be achieved by the 2025 deadline, and also looking beyond 2025. Foley talks on resetting the co-regulatory and collaborative frameworks between government and industry, and interventions to regulate packaging materials to promote circularity. LINKS: 2025 Targets data "disappointing," APCO calls for reset: www.packagingnews.com.au/latest/2025-targets-data-disappointing-apco-calls-for-reset APCO Report: documents.packagingcovenant.org.au/public-documents/Review%20of%20the%202025%20National%20Packaging%20Targets ------------------------------ The PKN Podcast is produced by Southern Skies Media on behalf of PKN Packaging News, owned and published by Yaffa Media. The views of the people featured on this podcast do not necessarily represent the views of PKN Packaging News, Yaffa Media, or the guest’s employer. The contents are copyright by Yaffa Media. If you wish to use any of this podcast’s audio, please contact PKN Packaging News via their website www.packagingnews.com.au or send an email to [email protected]. MC: Grant McHerron Host: Lindy Hughson Producer: Steve Visscher Editor: Chris Visscher PKN Packaging News - © 2023