Dr. Beth (www.drbetherickson.com (http://www.drbetherickson.com)) spoke with Matt Cavallo (www.mattcavallo.com (http://www.mattcavallo.com)) about his multiple sclerosis that came with a vengeance overnight when he was 28 years old. Although initially, he “walked like a penguin,” he and his wife were able to have two sons. His book is The Dog Book. Then she spoke with Robert Hayward (www.thethirteenthstep.com (http://www.thethirteenthstep.com)) about his being a drunk and a druggie from age of 14 on. That is, until he hit the proverbial bottom and decided to try a traditional Indian ceremony to rid himself of his addictions. And it worked! He is now a drug and alcohol counselor. His book is The Thirteenth Step.