We sat down with the Cowboy of Conservation, Jay Kleberg. This conversation is full of insight and encouragement. We riff on pursuing passion and impact through our lives, we explore the fear and reward of taking career risks, and we celebrate our shared love for conservation and how we are all trying to affect change in that space. You can follow Jay and his work here: IG: https://www.instagram.com/jaykleberg/ (@jaykleberg) and https://www.instagram.com/deepintheheartfilm/ (@deepintheheartfilm) Web: https://texanbynature.org/programs/deep-in-the-heart/ (Deep in the Heart Film) and https://theriverandthewall.com/ (The RIver Wall Film)