In this episode, our host Elena welcomes Thomas Richard as her guest, diving into the intriguing world of cybersecurity governance, risk, and compliance. Join them as they explore the importance of communication skills in the industry, the benefits of starting small in your career, and the rising demand for cybersecurity professionals. Discover Thomas's insights on recruitment strategies, the mindset of ethical hackers, and the power of building relationships in the cybersecurity field. Stay tuned for a conversation filled with valuable advice, industry insights, and personal strategies for success. Time stamps: 00:00 School wasn't too interesting, but loved security. 05:01 Effective relationship-driven recruiting methods still relevant today. 06:38 Networking and recruiters crucial for job search. 09:45 Balanced work routine with occasional longer days. 14:53 Consider smaller enterprises for easier career entry. 18:34 Unpaid work prepares for better jobs later. 22:39 Stand out by being genuine and kind. 26:26 Increasing demand due to supply chain attacks. 27:41 Humans are fascinating, damaging the internet. 32:07 Experience brings immunity and improved coping skills. 36:14 Intense hot yoga helps me relax. 37:17 Using virtual assistants to regain work-life balance. 40:07 Reflect on actions to achieve future happiness. Connect with Thomas on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaspropen/ Follow Elena: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaagaragimova/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elenaagaragimova/ Listen on: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-with-elena-agar/id1530850914 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5UKh6dWcuQwJlmAOqD8wij --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/elenaagar/support