Nate & Ben discuss starting a feud like Drake and Kendrick, going to a White Sox game, Star Wars & Star Trek, the confusing situation the Cardinals find themselves in, the potential resurgence of the offense, remembering its against the the Angels, how bad the Angels are, bring back Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson vs Siani, Matt Carpenter the Professional Hitter, how quickly the rotation became bad again, the Cardinals dwindling playoff odds, considering the future, the trade deadline, and much more!  Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.