In this episode, John talks with Keila and Joe about their relationship history, communication issues, and recent conflicts. They also talk about the baggage from past relationships, the challenges of feeling safe and secure, external stressors, different social lives, and the pressure to be everything for each other. They also discuss the impact of living together and the pressure of time and fertility. John ends this episode with a little behind the scenes commentary on the reality of recording the real couples sessions episodes.