Matt draws on his time with professional runners at the HOKA NAZ Elite Summer run camp, in Flagstaff, Arizona, among other experiences, with wit and wisdom. Here we have a wonderful insight into elite running, ways of coaching and the evolution of 80/20 running (80% low & 20% moderate to high intensity). Also, how recreational runners can improve way beyond their own expectations, as Matt has. I really enjoyed this conversation and can highly recommend Matt's latest book "Running the Dream"!