Buckle up — this may be one of the most inspirational conversations about restaurants you’ll ever hear. Three experienced restaurateurs share their thoughts on the state of the  industry. First, we hear from Matt Orlando, the chef and owner of the Copenhagen restaurant Amass. And he doesn’t mince his words. Matt reveals  the "deep underlying problem" in the restaurant industry, identifies its most  “irresponsible business owners”, and pinpoints the problem with awards and accolades. He also explains why we need “an aggressive cultural shift within the restaurant industry”, how chefs have the tools to do this, and how it could help make restaurants financially secure. Then we speak to Beau Clugston, the owner of the Copenhagen seafood bistro Iluka, who explains how his restaurant got through the past eighteen months. Beau tells us what needs to change in the industry — even if diners won’t like it. Finally, we talk to Lau Richter, the general manager at Noma’s sister restaurant, Barr. He tells us about the positive impact of the pandemic, how Barr survived, and why he’ll never look at polishing wine glasses in the same way again.