Jen talks to writer and journalist Olga Mecking about her wildly popular book Niksen: Embracing the Dutch Art of Doing Nothing. They talk about how doing nothing is different than mindfulness and meditation and that to do nothing has to have no goal - even though science shows that taking time to do nothing vastly improves our nervous system and creativity. For more information on Olga Mecking and her work go here: http://www.olgamecking.com For more information on Jen Kirkman, the host of Anxiety Bites, please go here: https://jenkirkman.bio.link Anxiety Bites is distributed by the iHeartPodcast Network and co-produced by Dylan Fagan and JJ Posway. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com