The grime artist turned chef Big Zuu is in fine fettle as he joins us to talk about rapping and cooking. He tells Simon about his unlikely journey - which has seen him get into the music business via social work, and latterly making Dorito Fried Chicken for Jimmy Carr! Variety is the spice, as they say. We hear about his love of West African and Middle Eastern cuisine - and macaroni cheese out of a can! Zuu also has a couple of neat tricks for making burgers, and a pair of excellent recommendations for Lebanese restaurants in London.   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.