This extended guest episode was recorded as part of our season 2 finale. In this episode, we are joined by two titans of television and entertainment PR who are generally all-around nice guys. Sam Hodges and James MacLeod started their PR career at the BBC together working on shows such as Strictly Come Dancing. They have gone on to have top comms roles at ITV, BBC, Netflix, Channel 4 and Twitter between them.  During our conversation, we talked about what it is really like being at the top, moving a headquarters outside London, making the decision to switch industries from TV to tech, failure, reality TV, Ofcom and the most important question of all, how do shows get picked for Gogglebox.  At the time of recording the podcast, James MacLeod had stepped down as Communications Director at Channel 4, and remained as an advisor on the government’s new consultation relating to the broadcaster's future ownership and its review of public service broadcasting. James started his career at the BBC as a publicist and then later joined ITV, leaving there as Head of Press, Broadcasting.  Sam Hodges is a director at Aaqua. He has been the  Head of Communications at the BBC , and Twitter, the Director of Content Comms at Netflix and a partner at the agency Freuds.   Studio Lambert https://www.studiolambert.com/shows.html  Pregnancy Loss Policy https://www.channel4.com/corporate/pregnancy-loss-policy Menopause Policy https://www.channel4.com/corporate/menopause-policy  Future4 https://www.channel4.com/corporate/future4  BBC’s Alex Scott ‘proud’ of working class accent after peer’s elocution jibe This article is more than 2 months old: Lord Digby Jones accuses Alex Scott of spoiling Olympics coverage by dropping her ‘g’s https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2021/jul/31/bbc-alex-scott-proud-working-class-accent-digby-jones-elocution    @jamesmacleod https://twitter.com/jamesmacleod?lang=en  Linkedin: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jamesmacleodcomms  @SamHodges https://twitter.com/SamHodges  Linkedin:  https://uk.linkedin.com/in/samhodgescomms    Season 2 of Have You Got 5 Minutes? Is hosted by Harriet Small and Rebecca Roberts, produced by Dave Musson, Mustard Yellow Media, and brought to in partnership with Nextdoor.  Nextdoor is the neighbourhood app used by 1 in 7 households in the UK. For more information  Nextdoor  Twitter: @Nextdoor_UK Website:  https://nextdoor.co.uk/    Follow us on Instagram @HYG5MPod    Find Rebecca:  Twitter: https://twitter.com/rebecca7roberts https://twitter.com/threadandfable   Linkedin: Rebecca Roberts  Website: https://threadandfable.com/  Podcast: The Hear It podcast    Find Harriet: Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarrietSmallies   Linkedin: Harriet Small Website: https://www.commsoveracoffee.com/