Is your stuff getting attention that it deserves? "What it does is it forces businesses to realize that people's attention span is very short. They probably are not going to listen or watch to a 30 minutes podcast, but they will listen to and watch a 30 second video." John Follis, Making Conversations Count - October 2022  Psst! Click if you want to read a transcript version of the episode Is your stuff getting the attention that you know it deserves? When you post a video, does it get views? When you publish a podcast episode, do people listen to it? When you type out your thoughts, do people read them? This is the subject of this week's conversation. We're privileged to have a real, honest-to-biscuits, bona-fide member of the "Mad Men". John Follis joins our Wendywoo to chat through podcasting, explainer videos, Tik Tok and Instagram. And not just the online social stuff. The real life social stuff too!...   You'll learn... John's experience with leveraging his podcast as a discovery tool before social was a thing (01m30s) Success is about timing (08m30s) Whatever platform or medium you use, you've got to get the messaging right (14m29s) The algorithms are constantly changing (20m11s) John's conversation that counted (23m30s)   What IS Making Conversations Count?   "Making Conversations Count" is a podcast from WAG Associates founder and telemarketing trainer Wendy Harris.   Missed our previous episodes?   You can catch up with any of the other guests we've been making conversations count with, here:   https://makingconversationscount.com/episodes/   Listen to Making Conversations Count   On your mobile device? Hear the conversations in your favourite platform (Apple or Spotify etc) here:   https://makingconversationscount.studio/listen