Are you being realistic in your expected results? Are you headed for depression or progression? "I just want to let you know, most likely you will never accomplish what we have in the podcast industry, because we are the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1%. " - Kevin Palmieri, Making Conversations Count - March 2023  In an area with expensive internet? Here's a lower bandwidth version for you   Let's talk about applying 'next level' thinking to figure out how we can escape depression and enjoy progression!  In this podcast episode, Wendy talks to Kevin Palmieri about his work with Next Level University, a self-improvement platform that he co-founded with his friend Alan. Kevin shares his journey to becoming hyperconscious and how he and Alan reconnected after a falling out in high school. He also talks about leaving his miserable job, partnering with Alan, and starting the Hyperconscious Podcast. After 450 episodes, they rebranded to Next Level University. You'll learn... Wendy's plans for this podcast  How Kevin's podcast came about  The journey from depression to progression Kevin’s conversation that counted Kevin's links: Kevin Palmieri Instagram Kevin's LinkedIn (although he isn't into LinkedIn!)   What IS Making Conversations Count?   "Making Conversations Count" is a podcast from telemarketing and communication trainer Wendy Harris. In it, she shares how to use conversation to build relationships in business.   Missed our previous episodes?   You can catch up with any of the other guests we've been making conversations count with, here:   https://makingconversationscount.com/episodes/   Listen to Making Conversations Count   On your mobile device? Hear the conversations in your favourite platform (Apple or Spotify etc) here:   https://makingconversationscount.studio/listen