Phil de la Haye is an Internal Family Systems practitioner and coach with a particular interest in the mindbody connection and chronic physical symptoms. He has a degree in Psychology and a background in education. Phil has his own history of chronic pain recovery and he’s passionate about supporting others through their own process of healing. He and I have a fantastic conversation that can only happen when two people who speak the same language and share some overlaps in our experiences of chronic pain and our healing as well as how we help our clients feel better. We talk about the impacts of stress on various communities like queer + trans people and the overwhelming overlaps of pain conditions and medically unexplained symptoms that we are seeing. If you've heard of IFS but have never thought about applying it to MindBody Healing work. Phil shares how IFS can help and his three things that everyone with pain should know.