Tissue damage does not equal pain. In this episode I talk with Brett Jones. Brett is a Senior Kettle Bell Instructor. Brett Jones is a Certified Athletic Trainer and Strength and Conditioning Specialist based in Pittsburgh, PA. I started working with Brett almost 17 years ago, he trained me in kettle bells. He is so much more than a strength and conditioning specialist. Brett is currently the Director of Education for StrongFirst and presenter and advisory board member for Functional Movement Systems. As an Athletic Trainer who has transitioned into the fitness industry, Brett has taught kettlebell techniques and principles since 2003. He has taught for Functional Movement Systems (FMS) since 2006, and has created multiple DVDs and manuals with world-renowned physical therapist Gray Cook, including the “Secrets of…” series. We have a fascinating conversation on how to exercise while in pain, and why you should exercise while you are in pain.